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BB: Bianca Butthole
SN:: Sharon Needles
JM: Judy Molish
BnB: Blare N. Bitch
BAND: Betty Blowtorch (collectively)
HM: Hybrid Magazine - Jason Dunn
Interviewers Notes: Certain,
unrelated parts of my conversation were edited from my recording
to maintain continuity, and to keep you from losing interest.
I also edited out the questions that didn't go anywhere or
really get answered. Some statements are slightly paraphrased
to improve understanding since there were some periods where
everyone was talking at once, and I had to dissect my recording
to make a unified, complete statement.
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I got a chance recently to interview the
all-girl Hard Rock band Betty Blowtorch at their appearance
in Denver at the Lion's Lair. I had some preconceptions of
what my interview might be like; most of them involved me
running for my life down some poorly lit alleyway along Colfax
with the fearsome four in hot pursuit. Chicks like that can
smell fear, I'm sure of it. My fear abated some when I realized
that I might actually weigh more than the whole band, collectively.
I don't know what it is, but they sure looked bigger in the
press kit photo. Shortly after starting to talk with them,
I felt quite comfortable around them, since we had the common
affinity for outrageous humor, and little patience for pop-culture
trash. The thing that startled me most is how different they
were. Blare, was the tallest, but also the quietest. She sat
in the back of the van and gave faint answers to my questions.
She probably sat in the back of the class. So did I, but I
was a loudmouth so it never helped me. Bianca was sexy, slinky
and ultra-confident. She poured herself into her chair, and
wore the smart-ass smirk of the self-assured. Her sentences
were slow and deliberate; her answers wry and dry. She was
Natasha, all the way, baby. (From Rocky and Bullwinkle)
Sharon was loud, giggly and hyper. I can
see her as the only band member who doesn't need a shot of
espresso to wake up in the morning. Her enthusiasm was powerful
and infectious. I imagine she is the most entertaining person
to be around, especially when she's all wound up. Judy was
short and tiny, with the exception of her drummer's arms,
which made her look pretty tough. She was often quiet, until
she had something to say, and then you got the full story.
She reminded me of Scrappy Doo, especially when it involved
talk of kicking J-Lo's ass. (I'd pay to see that!)
I hoped that they would be a fairly raucous
and goofy bunch to interview, so I came up with some gross
and disturbing questions to ask them (along with some serious
ones, too) to see how they would react. Some of them were
not real successful, but the good ones made up plenty of material
for this interview.
I also discovered that everyone loves to
say "P. Diddy!" Go ahead and try it. I dare you...
BB: You're locked in the van with
us- ha ha ha... Are you scared?
HM: Uh oh, my mother warned me about
this...
BAND: (laughs, and minor cheering)
HM: Okay, I'm going to start off
with a serious question here: When writing music, do you write
for your own edification and hope it's commercially viable,
or do you have a particular, targeted audience in mind?
BB: Commercially viable? Good Lord,
we don't know what that is. What the fuck?
SN:: Those are awfully big words...
HM: So do you just make the music
that suits your personal tastes?
BnB: Well, it's the only thing we
know how to write.
BB: Yeah, true.
HM: MTV Music Awards: does anybody
care?
BB: No.
BnB: Huh-uh.
HM: Have you ever (cared)?
BB: Nope, I don't think I've ever
seen one.
HM: Yeah, I don't think I ever have
either.
SN:: I didn't even know it was on,
(friend whose name I can't decipher 'cause I had my big mouth
open) called and said, "You didn't watch? I thought for
sure you would watch!"
BB: Britney Spears rules.
HM: I think *Nsync won a bunch of
awards.
JM: *Nsync N-schmync.
BB: *Nsync is better than the Backstreet
Boys.
ALL: (Laughter all around)
JM: Actually, you know who I did
see? That uh, what's that chick's-Alicia or something...
HM: Aaliyah?
JM: -Aaliyah, or something...
HM: The one who died in the plane
crash? (I had my events mixed up. I forgot that Aaliyah had
died before the MTV Music Awards.)
JM: No, no. She was this chick who
played the piano; she sang and had a little band, and a choir
came in. She was only about 20 years old, and she was really
good. I was quite impressed.
HM: Um, I don't think that would
make me watch it.
BnB: Yeah, me neither.
HM: O-Town, *Nsync, or the Backstreet
Boys: who would you rather gang-rape?
JM: Say again?
HM: O-Town, *Nsync, or the Backstreet
Boys: who would you rather gang-rape?
JM: O-Town, who's that?
HM: That's the band that Lou Pearlman
made for a TV show.
BB: Oh my god.
SN:: Fred Murtz!
JM: Yeah, Fred Murtz.
BnB: Barney!
JM: Fred Murtz is what we say when
don't really want to choose.
SN:: It's our default answer.
JM: Now, who were the other ones?
HM: *Nsync and the Backstreet Boys.
Lou Pearlman made all three of them.
JM: Oh.
BnB: Britney Spears! (From the back
of the van)
BB: Blare says Britney Spears. Yeah,
Britney Spears.
JM: I'd go with Britney Spears on
that one.
JM & BB: (begin clapping and
yelling "Britney")
SN:: Fred Murtz!
HM: Who?
BAND: Fred Murtz!
BB: You know, from I Love Lucy?
HM: (finally dawns) Oooohhhhh.
JM: Whenever there's somebody we
can't stand, we just say "Fred Murtz."
HM: Fred Murtz. That's good. Should
there be a law against changing your name to P. Diddy?
JM: Excuse me?
SN:: P. Diddy!
BB: P. Diddy, you know, Puff Daddy
changed his name.
JM: He did?
BB: See, I'm soooooo not hip. Puff
Daddy, Schmuff Daddy. P. Diddy.
SN:: P. Diddy!
HM: If you were going to have a 'Puff'
name what would it be?
JM: (authoritatively) Cream Puff.
BB: Sharon, yours should be Cocoa
Puff.
SN:: Cocoa Puff! (Laughs) -But, there
already is a 'Cocoa Puff'.
HM: There was an Afro Puff too. She
had these two, huge, Princess Leia-like things goin' on on
the side of her head.
SN:: That's rad.
BB to BnB: You should be Muff Puff.
BnB: Yeah, Muff Puff!
SN:: Muff Puff Plus.
JM pointing at BB: Puff Puff.
BB: Yeah, Puff Puff. Ok, we've got
Cream Puff, Puff Puff, Cocoa Puff and Muff Puff. The Big Muff
Puff.
SN:: I know, I was going to say Muff
Puff Plus. The Big Muff Puff...Plus.
HM: That's a mouthful.
BB: Double-A
HM: What is the best, worst movie?
BB: Bubble Boy.
BAND: (Much laughter. Betty Blowtorch
briefly appeared in Bubble Boy.)
BB: That IS the worst movie.
HM: Should I go see Bubble Boy, and
should I pay full price or wait for the dollar theaters?
BAND: NO!
SN:: You guys haven't even seen it
yet!
BB: I have. I thought it wasn't as
bad as everybody said.
BnB: Wait for it on DVD, it will
have some of the deleted scenes in it.
HM: Are you in any of the deleted
scenes?
JM: I have no idea.
BnB: We're probably in most of the
deleted scenes.
BB: Cause we're not really
in any of the actual scenes.
SN:: The only thing that was really
left out was the bus scene. We were on there way longer than
I thought we were gonna be.
BnB: You know, they have this whole
unedited version that they filmed and you're getting about
five seconds of the actual live footage.
This carried on too long, and had lost its
way by this point...
HM: Okay, next question. Mojo Nixon
states that Elvis is everywhere. How much Elvis do you have
in you? And is it skinny, sexy Elvis, or fat, drunk Elvis?
SN:: Skinny, sexy Elvis. I fuckin'
grew up on that shit.
BB: I listened to him before anything
else. Fat, sweaty, drunk Elvis.
HM: That's the man for you?
BB: That's the man for me.
BnB: Are you serious?
BB: Elvis rules. He is The King.
SN:: He is.
BB: I'm talkin' the gaudy, disgusting-
HM: Rhinestoned...
BB: Puff Daddy Elvis.
HM: Who will buy Michael Jackson's
skeleton when he dies? Will there be anything left?
BB: Paul McCartney. (Bianca answered
that one too quickly. She must have thought of that possibility.
The answer was too perfect to be spontaneous.)
HM: Wow, good guess.
JM: Good answer!
SN:: (giggles)
HM: I guess that's only fitting,
considering that he (MJ) bought all the rights to McCartney's
music.
BB: See? Told ya.
BnB: Ya know what? (At this point,
Blare gets drowned out by everybody else.)
BB: And then he's gonna torch it...
JM: Michael Jackson's an alien.
HM: Ya know, I believe that.
BnB: That's what my mom told me anyway.
(I wish I knew what she said. Maybe she was making references
to the MJ as Alien thing, but I'll never be sure. Blare was
too quiet, and too far from the recorder. Unfortunately, Sharon
and I were the loudest, and the closest to the mic.)
HM: Ummmm. Ok, is Clint Eastwood
still a badass or what?
BAND: Yeah!
HM: Did you know he listens to Mary
Kate and Ashley Olsen's Greatest Hits?
BB: Nooooooooooooo.
HM: He said that in an interview,
but then his publicist said that he was only joking.
BB: That can't be true...
SN:: Who cares? He's HOT!
BnB: He is hot! Who fuckin' cares?
He's hot. He's still hot.
HM: And he's still a badass.
SN:: He is still a badass.
BB: Still a badass.
HM: What should Pay-Per-View charge
to let America watch the Olsen Twins "lez out"?
BB: Oh God, you couldn't pay me to
watch that.
SN:: The who?
JM: The Olsen twins. You know, from
Full House?
BnB: I don't know that.
SN:: Oh, those chicks? Ewwwwwwww.
Kiss my ass!
JM: These two little twins, they
were on Full House, now they've got their own little show...
BB & JM: Fred Murtz.
SN:: Yeah Fred Murtz.
JM: I'd rather watch Fred and Desi
go at it than watch that.
JM: Yeah...
HM: You'd have to re-animate them
though.
JM: That's true.
BnB: I still don't know who that
is.
BB: I'd rather watch a lady fuck
a donkey than watch that.
JM: You don't know who the Olsen
twins are?
BB: It don't matter, you'll figure
it out.
HM: You're right. It doesn't matter.
Will your album help people in an Anne Murray, Barry Manilow
sort of way, or hurt them in a Marilyn Manson, Judas Priest
sort of way?
BAND: Hmmmmm.
JM: Probably a little of both. There's
something for everyone on this record.
HM: I noticed that.
BB: I don't know about the Barry
Manilow part, though.
BnB: I think he was thinking "Shut
Up And Fuck" when he wrote his ballads. ("Shut Up
And Fuck" is the name of one of Betty Blowtorch's songs.)
JM: Yep, could be.
BB: I think everybody thinks "Shut
Up And Fuck"
JM: They're just afraid to say it.
BB: Exactly. They have to say "Shut
up and make looove."
HM: So, when you write your music,
do you do it with the intention of trying to bait groups like
the PMRC, or to generate negative press?
SN:: No.
BnB: No.
BB: Not at all.
JM: We just do our thing.
BB: We don't think of that shit at
all.
BnB: We're not that organized.
BB: You know, we're just a bunch
of smart-ass women with a lot of time, and we couldn't even
write a serious song if we tried to. I mean, we have the one
serious song, "Love Hate", and there's still just
a little bit of humor to it. You know, it's just that we can't
help it.
HM: What value does the music industry
place on originality?
BB: Not much, these days. Everyone
sounds like everyone else.
SN:: (scoffs) Yeah, they would rather
have everyone sound the same.
BnB: If that weren't the case, we'd
be huge.
HM: That's because bands have become
product, and not art.
BB: Exactly.
SN:: Yeah.
BB: You know, I was thinking about
this just the other day. If you go back to the rock bands
of the '70s, they all had their own sound. They all were great
rock bands... with their own sound, and no one was trying
to sound like anyone else. If you go out on these tours, every
other band sounds the same. It's like hearing the same song,
AllDay--Long.
JM: What ever happened to taking
a chance?
BB: Yeah, just a little originality
here is all we're askin' for.
HM: My cousin had a good term for
that. He called it Stone-Temple-Pearl-Jam.
SN: & JM: Yeah.
BB: Yeah, it's just--I don't understand
it.
HM: It's become too money-driven.
BnB: It's product.
BB: It's canned SPAM.
HM: So, then how do artists go about
changing the perspectives of music executives
BB: Blow 'em.
HM:
so that they'll take a
chance on something that is original?
BB: I think you have to do anal sex.
I don't think blow jobs cut it any more.
HM: Or maybe if you brought a little
boy...
BB: Yeah. I think that they want
to be dominated, so you've got to tie them up, and then give
them anal sex.
BnB: No, we're just gonna do our
own thing, and eventually they'll catch on.
BB: Exactly.
BnB: They'll be sorry later.
JM: It don't matter, we're just gonna
do our own thing.
HM: Who is Betty Blowtorch?
BAND: We are. (Duh. Shoulda thought
o' that one.)
HM: Is she a specific person?
BB: We are!
SN:: We are! (Laughs)
BB: Sorry.
HM: So is that it?
BB: No. Who is Betty Blowtorch?
HM: Yeah.
BAND: Hmmmmmm.
SN:: They're them broads that'll
hump ya on top o' the car!
HM: Like it says in your press kit?
SN:: Exactly.
BnB: Betty Blowtorch is whatever
you want her to be.
JM: Whatever.
BB: Ya know, I gotta tell ya, ever
since that press release came out, I've had a lot of offers
from a lot of ugly men.
SN:: What, just to change their oil?
ALL: (gales of laughter)
BnB: I need an oil change!
BB: I just want you to know, that
I do have standards. Thank you.
HM: Does Betty Blowtorch use her
sexuality to entice her audience, or as an instrument of intimidation?
BnB: Neither.
HM: It just is?
BB: Yeah, it's just expression. I
don't know why we like to express that side of ourselves,
but we do. It's just fun.
BAND: Yeah.
BnB: (from the back) Double-As can
be sluts too ya know. I'd just like to say that.
BB: That's Blare. She's a Double-A
(Never explicitly stated, but it must be her bra cup size.)
BnB: Double-As can be sluts too!
BB: Judy's a Double-D...
JM: Oh, I am not!
HM: If you were a Barbie Doll, what
would they call you?
JM: Slugger Barbie.
BnB: Anal Alice!
SN:: Ho ho hooooo!
BB: That's not true.
SN:: That's Blare! Double-A: Anal
Alice.
HM: This question is in reference
to your song "Size Queen": How tall must one be
to "ride the rides?"
SN:: At least 6' 2".
HM: !!!!!!
JM: I dunno.
SN:: Oh, you're talkin' about-
BB: "Size Queen."
SN:: Yeah.
BB: Well?
SN:: It's about girth, not length.
BB: I'll say that I'll go for average,
six inches.
SN:: Prefers seven
JM: But it's got to have width.
BB: Yeah, a little width please...
SN:: No pencils!
BB: Exactly, no pencils.
SN:: If ya got a pencil, ya might
as well be lickin'!
BB: If ya got a pencil, don't even
bother.
I asked a question about Vanilla Ice, who
rapped on their song "Size Queen". It went nowhere,
I got a few Fred Murtz in reply. They are clearly tired of
being asked about him, so I let it drop. Quickly.
HM: Have you ever made a grown man
cry?
BAND: Oh yeah, plenty.
JM: Are you kidding? Hello?
BB: Hey you know, grown men have
made me cry...
BnB: Fuckers.
BB: But, they can't make me cry anymore.
HM: In your opinion, who is the biggest
media whore in the industry?
BB: Courtney Love.
HM: Courtney Love?
BB: Shit yeah, and Madonna.
SN:: Yeah, Madonna.
JM: J-Lo. Fuckin' hate her.
ALL: (laughs)
JM: Yeah J-Lo. I'll fuckin' slap
her if I ever see her... Oh, sorry.
BB: She kinda is annoying.
JM: (sullenly) She didn't act nice
to the puppet dog.
SN:: What are you talking about?
Puppy dog?
JM: No, you know on Conan, there's
that puppet dog? It's just this little comic dog, and it was
also on the MTV Awards and it was insulting people, and he
went up to J-Lo, and he was like "Hey, let me sniff your
ass!" and she got ALL pissed off, and kept pushing it
away with her hand. "No-no-no J-Lo, it's a big compliment
if a dog wants to sniff your ass!"
SN:: Oh, that's so hot!
JM: And then in the replay, they
cut that whole thing out.
SN:: Oh. My. God. That is sooo hot.
HM: They probably had to cut it 'cause
she threatened a lawsuit.
JM: Yeah, probably would be a lawsuit.
SN:: (in Linda Richman accent) She's
no sense a' humah!
JM: Lighten up J-Lo.
BB: Yeah lighten up big butt.
JM: Let the dog sniff your ass!
HM: How much do you think Americans
would pay to see, or to not see Bob Dole nail Britney Spears?
BAND: Oh, gross!
HM: Should Pepsi sponsor it?
BB: Yeah, they should!
HM: Well, they already sponsored
the suggestion that he should...
BB: Yeah, I definitely think Pepsi
should sponsor that, and then they should put it on the Internet.
BnB: Yeeeesh!
JM: I don't want to see Bob Dole
naked.
BB: Yeah, but I want to see Britney
naked.
JM: But they should have her with
somebody else.
BB: So, who?
JM: With Blare!
BnB: Hey, that's goin' too far.
HM: What does your band offer that
no one else does?
SN:: Ass!
BAND: Ass-slappin' fun.
BB: Originality.
JM: Personality.
BB: We're just gonna rock your world.
BnB: It's not that we're original,
we just do it better.
JM: They'll just get a good show,
so come out and have some fun.
BB: You can expect to get a black
eye with my left tit.
SN:: That's Bianca!
HM: What music do you listen to for
enjoyment?
SN:: We listen to eeeeeeverything.
JM: Everything, actually.
BnB: No Jazz.
JM: Yeah, no fusion.
BB: We listen to some country. We
listen to Hank Williams...
SN:: We listen to disco too.
BB: AC/DC, Van Halen... (And continued
to name many others)
HM: Which of these bands do you look
to for inspiration?
JM: Kinda all of 'em.
BB: I gotta say The Hellacopters.
HM: The Hellacopters?
BB: Yeah, they're my favorite new
band.
JM: Nashville Pussy too. They put
on a good show.
HM: I have one of their albums, but
I've never seen them live.
BnB: See them live. They're a lot
better live.
BB: Yeah, it's worth seeing. I have
their last album...
HM: I have the one that had to be
covered in black plastic.
BB: Which one was that?
SN:: That's the first one. There
was some more back and forth where we figured out which album
was which and who had what.
JM: Their live show is really good.
HM: Alright, I guess I have to go
see them.
BB: You really should...
BnB: And we love their new bass player.
JM: Yeah, we loooove their new bass
player.
SN:: She's hot.
BnB: She is hot, she kicks ass.
BB: She is hot.
HM: So, she replaced Corey Parks?
JM: You know what, she's hotter than
Corey Parks because she's brunette. Thank you.
BnB: We all want to bang her. And
you will too when you see her.
HM: Uhhhhh. OK. (Not that that could
ever happen, but hey, I can play along...)
BB: Except Sharon. She's like "huh-uh
not me, man."
JM: She's got good hair, she's a
fox.
HM: And how important is good hair?
BAND: Good hair is very important.
HM: Well, that's all of my questions.
BB: You had great questions.
JM: Good job, Jason.
JM: Wow, we de-virginized you.
BB: You got Betty-Banged in the van!
HM: Ha ha ha! That's great! That
should be the title of the interview. (And so it is.)
We talked about some other stuff, and I
gave them some stickers I brought.
BB: Hey, thanks a lot.
HM: And thank you. You were very
gracious.
BB: Nooooooooo.
Sorry, my mistake. Ok, they were gracious
enough not to leave me duct-taped to a chair in some abandoned
warehouse. --JD
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